![]() ![]() ![]() On the plus side, they are MUCH easier, and cheaper to work on then a Deere. All but the HD4 have hand clutches like a Cat and most have noisy Detroit Diesels (excellent engines though). They are all very rugged machines, have better undercarriage then Deere, but are no where near as nice to operate. I know where there's a good running HD5 loader with winch for $2000 but it needs some undercarriage work. I've come across some great deals on Allis Chalmers crawler-loaders - HD4 for $2500, HD5s $2500-$4500, HD7s around the same. As far as what YOU get - it also depends on what you're willing to put up with. ![]() So - it all depends on the price versus the condition of the machine. That is getting hard to do with the prices on parts now. That way, when I'm done, I know exactly what I have. I've been in the habit of buying beat-up machines cheap, and then completely going through them. Prices are getting so high on parts, new and used, and good used machines are also sky high. a few years ago I'd say a 450B or newer turbocharged Deere. In answer to what I'd look for in a 450 sized loader? Well. I'm in central New York State - but with the Internet, I'm not sure regions matter much anymore in regard to pricing. built machines when availble, so Deere started the "relife program." Many state agencies require crawlers under a certain weight, and are supposed to buy U.S. From what I've read, there are NO Amercian built crawlers in that weight range anymore. John Deere is taking in old 450s, updating them, and reselling them for somewhere around $70,000! It's called their "certified relife" program. You can easily spend $5000 fixing a HL-R transmission, and another $5000 redoing an undercarriage. To the converse, a local equipment dealer has an old - small engine - 450 dozer with 6-way and he's asking $16,000! I think he's nuts, but who knows? I often come across 450 loaders with hoes in the $7000 price range in usable condition - but not great. I've had chances recently to buy running 450 dozers with 6-way blades as low as $4500 and older 450 loaders for $3500. First engine size got increased, then with later 450Bs, Keystone piston rings and turbochargers were added. Keep in mind that 450s changed in horsepower and engine size over time. Dozers generally bring higher prices than loaders - but the hoe certainly adds value. Problem was they were taking off while in neutral and killed a few people. ![]() I had to update an awful lot of them as part of the Deere law-suit settlement. they ever made including all the 450s and older 2010s. Deere had a class-action law suit against it for every HL-R trans. The HL-R transmisson is very rugged, but also extremely expensive to fix. Re: john deere 450 price $$$$$$$ in reply to andy1, 03-12-2005 14:16:28Ĥ50 series was, and can be a very good machine. I have only basic knowledge and no experience when it comes to dozers so please respond if you know anything at all about a jd 450. I need some advise on what I should pay for this machine. I hear they can get expensive if you have to work on the tranny-final drive. I have experience with skidders, knucklebooms, backhoes, bobcats, etc. His son bought some land and they are using it right now to move some dirt. He has had it for about 12 years and just piddles with it (said the backhoe is strong). He told me that it has dry clutches and the steering is power assisted. The track and sprockets appear to be in good shape. The bucket is not all bent up and the teeth look pretty good, all the sheet metal is on and the engine is still yellow and does not have oil and fuel all over it. I went and looked at it a while back and it is not beat up. The man told me that he thought it was around a 1973. I am looking at buying a jd 450 crawler loader with the backhoe attachment. ![]()
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